#: 13776 S9/Utilities 31-Dec-91 00:08:03 Sb: #AR Warning Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 To: All WARNING! After reading the threads about AR in the CoCo List messages I decided to see what all the fuss was about and downloaded AR14.BIN from LIB9. I played with it for a while, found that it had a back compatability mode so it worked with my old archives, and did a *slightly* better job of compressing than AR version 1.2, so decided to keep it. I had a bunch of CIS message threads to add to an existing archive (a procedure I frequently use) and AR v.1.4 was in memory, so I used its compatibility mode to add the files. IMAGINE MY HORROR to discover that it had not added to the existing archive, but overwritten it with only the new files, destroying all the ones I already had. BE WARNED THAT AR VERSION 1.4 CAN BE DANGEROUS TO THE HEALTH OF YOUR EXISTING ARCHIVES. I have erased my copy, and will wait for the official Kreider upgrade, if any. BTW, many thanks to Kevin for the new RBF and UNDEL which allowed me to recover some of the missing files. I have, however, one question and one comment. Question: why is UNDEL so s.l.o.w? Anywhere from 30 to 85 seconds per file meant over 15 minutes to recover one directory. A similar feat on the messydos machine at work takes about 0.2 seconds! Would it be worth trying to redo UNDEL in assembler (I seem to recall that it is in C) to speed it up? The comment: users of UNDEL should note that just because UNDEL indicates that a file can be recovered is no guarantee that it can be. UNDEL checks to see if the sectors that make up the file are unassigned, and, if so, assumes that they are still valid parts of the original file. This is not necessarily so. If, since deleting the file, you have created and deleted some other files, the sectors, while marked as unassigned, now contain bits of the new files rather than the original one and strange results are guaranteed. There is 1 Reply. #: 13778 S9/Utilities 31-Dec-91 04:32:54 Sb: #13776-AR Warning Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X) Good point about Undel perhaps not always working as you expect, if there's been file creations/deletions since then (and sectors have been used/discarded again). Never hit me, since I usually realize right away when I need to undelete a file :-) Speed? I've never had it take more than several seconds! Was this on a floppy or hard drive? Was there anything else going on that might have locked up some sectors (or even locked out the directory or bitmap?). Was the disk heavily fragmented? Or the files very large (and perhaps fragged?) Glad it helped you get back your files tho! I'm only sorry that we didn't post this RBF earlier. If it even saves one person's file, it was worth it! kev #: 13961 S9/Utilities 11-Jan-92 22:02:22 Sb: DBG debugger Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714 To: All Just uploaded my special version of DEBUG. You patch the standard level II DEBUG and run DBG to get disassembler, trace and single step. Have fun! Bob Santy #: 13965 S9/Utilities 12-Jan-92 13:32:54 Sb: L-II DEBUG BUG? Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714 To: All Does anyone know of possible memory problems with DEBUG? I was trying to debug c.prep with DEBUG and got lots of garbage color characters on my text mode windows. This is the level II DEBUG. Thanks for any info. Bob #: 14029 S9/Utilities 22-Jan-92 12:50:48 Sb: #Read OS9 disk on IBM PC? Fm: bruce winter 76476,2324 To: all I'm looking for a program that can read an OS9 formatted diskette on an IBM PC. Sample source code would be helpful. Thank You. Regards, Bruce Winter. There are 2 Replies. #: 14043 S9/Utilities 22-Jan-92 23:52:10 Sb: #14029-Read OS9 disk on IBM PC? Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: bruce winter 76476,2324 (X) I asked the same question on Delphi but got no answers. According to Rainbow (about a year ago) the program you need would be either Xenocopy or CoCo Util II. But Microcom is--or seems to be--out of business so I wouldn't hold out much hope for them. One of my local BBS's has something which might do the job but it's extremely difficult to get on. My autodialer always makes over a hundred attempts to get on (and I give up after 150-175 attempts.) If you have only text files, the PC shareware program Read My Disk !might be able to do it (I haven't tried it.) Read My Disk! however was intended to recover DOS files so it might not work well. If your files are no bigger than 156K you might want to convert them to Disk BASIC with the utility RSDos which you can download here. You'll also need a patch file for CC3Disk which you can also download here. Then go to the CoCo Forum and have your PC download AS9TOO.ARC and you may also need SWAPAB.ZIP. As a last resort you can always use a null modem connection; this will be very slow. #: 14057 S9/Utilities 23-Jan-92 22:45:54 Sb: #14029-Read OS9 disk on IBM PC? Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565 To: bruce winter 76476,2324 (X) It might be easier to read/write an MESS-DOS disk on your OS-9 system. -J #: 14189 S9/Utilities 04-Feb-92 04:12:36 Sb: #PAK utility Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: all Can anyone tell me if the author of the PAK utility, G.B. Janssen, is still around? I found an annoying bug in PAK I think.... There is 1 Reply. #: 14191 S9/Utilities 04-Feb-92 08:41:19 Sb: #14189-PAK utility Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 George - Haven't seen him in a bit. By and large, AR is still the flavor of choice. Pete #: 14413 S9/Utilities 23-Feb-92 12:28:48 Sb: #14191-#PAK utility Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) I like AR except for the fact that when you update a file in the pack, it expands the file and doesn't get rid of the old file. I use AR to backup my BBS every night at maintenance time. I had to delete the old AR files and then archive the directorys I wanted backed up all over again. Its just time consuming thing... BTW, I bought a 386 33mhz system this past saturday and really love the thing! Just blows me away! Now I need to get that cc3disk module that reads IBM disks and start coping files over.... There is 1 Reply. #: 14416 S9/Utilities 23-Feb-92 15:44:03 Sb: #14413-PAK utility Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 You may want to look at the HDKIT package in DL9... that will allow you to do incremental backups. You could always AR the results later. Pete #: 14588 S9/Utilities 12-Mar-92 06:41:58 Sb: DBG Version 2 Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714 To: ALL Just uploaded version 2 of DBG in Lib 9. Fixes several single step problems. Bob #: 14620 S9/Utilities 16-Mar-92 21:42:50 Sb: #Utilities Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: Kevin Darling, 76703,4227 (X) Dear Kevin: I have been experimenting with your Grab utility. In the docs, you mention GPMAP, Logic, Putblk, and Killbuff. I dl'd GPMAP, but a bro/key: Logic, etc did not turn up the other files. I thought perhaps they might be in a KDUTILS.Ar or some sort of file, but no luck there either. Where might I find them. With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW There is 1 Reply. #: 14622 S9/Utilities 17-Mar-92 07:45:06 Sb: #14620-#Utilities Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X) Hi Br. Jeremy, See GCMDS.AR in Lib 10. This one was tougher to track down than I thought . I couldn't think of any good keywords that I might have used for the file. So I gave up and resorted to searching the library using my really old uploader CIS id number (after my current number didn't make the file show up)... "sca/sho [73117,1375]" I'd almost forgotten that old number! best - kev There is 1 Reply. #: 14623 S9/Utilities 17-Mar-92 18:21:45 Sb: #14622-Utilities Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Thanks Kevin. I tried searching with your current number.---Br. Jeremy, CSJW #: 14698 S9/Utilities 26-Mar-92 02:49:18 Sb: #14416-PAK utility Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) I have that utility. I've used it before. It works pretty good... #: 14734 S9/Utilities 31-Mar-92 02:18:56 Sb: #Help Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: all Does anyone know of any software for OS9/MSDOS that will allow me to connect an MSDOS machine and a CoCo together through the RS232 port? MSDOS has WeakLink but its for 2 PC's, that I know of. I need something that will allow me to port my stuff from my CoCo to my 386. Any help would be appreciated...Thanks! There are 2 Replies. #: 14737 S9/Utilities 31-Mar-92 03:02:54 Sb: #14734-#Help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 (X) George - I always used a crossover cable (Null modem style) and a terminal package at each end... I typically used Kermit (and Procomm's Kermit) to effect the transfers. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 14772 S9/Utilities 03-Apr-92 11:00:03 Sb: #14737-Help Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) I used RiBBS and Procomm+ at 9600 baud and I tried OSTerm and Procomm+ at 19200 baud. Now that was great! Talk about your speedy file transfers! However; using OSTerm, I had to issue the menu commands on the CoCo but the file transfers came thru on Procomm. I couldn't see the menu selections using Procomm. I need to have my modem initalize differently... #: 14750 S9/Utilities 01-Apr-92 16:56:49 Sb: #14734-#Help Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 (X) If you need to read your OS-9 disks in your PC, there is a German company called DTR(Daten Technik Reicshke), that has made a utility for MSDOS called OS9MAX, that will allow you to read,write,format,dir,diskcopy OS-9 disks in your PC-drive. It will read almost any format. If you are interested I will look up the address/phone number. There is 1 Reply. #: 14774 S9/Utilities 03-Apr-92 11:03:17 Sb: #14750-Help Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: ole hansen 100016,3417 Thanks! What's the number?? I wonder if they have a utility that will repack an OS9 HD? That would be impressive. #: 14751 S9/Utilities 01-Apr-92 21:16:26 Sb: PC Anywhere w/OS-9 Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: All To: Any and All I'm looking for a program that runs under OS-9 that does what the remote PC in a "PC-Anywhere arrangement" does. As you may know, PC-Anywhere allows a host PC to accessed via a comm-link connected remote PC. The remote PC can be in the next room, the next county or the next country, as long as they are attached to each other through their respective COMM ports. The remote PC (once logged on) can to anything from the remote site that can be done from the local (host) site. A LAN is being installed here at work. My employer's PC is across the room, my CoCo (w/OS-9) is here on this side of the room, where all my "stuff" is. I think it'd be great if I could link up with the LAN-ed Po using PC-Anywhere running on the PC and an OS-9 counterpart running here on the CoCo3. I could then just open a window under my Level 2 system, start the OS-9 version of PC-Anywhere, log on to the PC (running the host part of PC-Anywhere), log on to the LAN, then do everything from where I've been doing it all anyway. Anything like a PC-Anywhere out there for Level 2? I just need the remote side to run on the OS-9 end. The host side (PC-Anywhere) would still be running on a PC. "PC-Anywhere" is just example of what I'm talking about. There are several such programs that run in the MiSery-DOS environs. A counterpart to just about any one of them would probably do. Thanks, Lee #: 14841 S9/Utilities 07-Apr-92 16:30:16 Sb: #14774-Help Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 Hello George I will send you a mail with the phone-number in a day or two. I will also upload to Library-12-OS9 a 'demo'-version that will give you an idea of the product. It will be called os9max.lzh best regards ole b. hansen #: 14842 S9/Utilities 07-Apr-92 16:32:15 Sb: #14774-Help Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 hello again Yes it will handle hd-diskettes (1.28MB(32-sectors/track(256-bytes))) regards ole b. hansen #: 14920 S9/Utilities 11-Apr-92 02:03:40 Sb: LZH Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: all I've seen the LZH decompress utility and was wondering if there is a LZH compress utility for OS9? Has anyone made this program yet? It would be pretty handy for OS9. Especially for us OS9 Sysops with lots of dloads and a small HD... #: 15002 S9/Utilities 17-Apr-92 17:57:59 Sb: #LHARC Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: mike haaland/ 72300,1433 (X) Hi! I was wondering if there is a CoCo OS9 version of LHArc that makes archives also. I have the one that unarchives and would really like a copy that would create archives also.... There is 1 Reply. #: 15006 S9/Utilities 18-Apr-92 02:47:35 Sb: #15002-LHARC Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 As far as I know, no one has yet ported LHarc to the CoCo. Sorry! (But that doesn't mean it can't or won't be done) - Mike - #: 16356 S9/Utilities 31-Aug-92 22:34:19 Sb: #Ar update status Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: all I decided to try to clean up the ar mess before I start on the CD-ROM driver/manager. I still haven't received all the mods from the hackers, but those who didn't send will just lose out. I've spent a day so far and it will be a bit more. I have one VMS port, one DOS port, two Unix ports, and a couple folks hacks to try to merge into one. None of these nice people had the foresight to contact me for the latest version of my sources before starting, so of course I can't just diff them each against my source. Even worse, there is inbreeding among some of these other versions. So the task is not as easy as I thought it would be. To those waiting with bated breath (and those who are swearing under it) blame your friendly neighborhood hacker for the delay. The final upgrade is under way and there will be a release. I ain't saying when, but it is now a sure thing. Anyone who has multiple service connections is free to paraphrase this there, and perhaps copy it. I don't know how CIS feels, but I would like it to be copied. Carl There is 1 Reply. #: 16365 S9/Utilities 01-Sep-92 17:32:27 Sb: #16356-Ar update status Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X) Carl, It's your message ... do with it what you like! :-) Actually ... in drips and drabs, and so long as it's mentioned that it originated from CompuServe, I doubt that the powers that be much care one way or the other if a message is cross posted. And ... that pretty much what Ken did over on Delphi Steve #: 16654 S9/Utilities 11-Oct-92 20:06:31 Sb: help Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: all Does anyone know if the HyperIO utilitys 'hdir', 'hcopy', 'hdel' will work on an MSDOS disk? If so, what do I set the '-t','-s', and '-g' commands too on the command line? Thanks!